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 Post subject: Re: About food rewards
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:25 pm 
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Angel, sometimes we just have to experiment to find the right food to use! The clicker doesn't make the food more valuable...the horse has to first consider the food to be very valuable then you can use it as a reward. Or have I misunderstood your post?

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 Post subject: Re: About food rewards
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:30 pm 
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Karen wrote:
the horse has to first consider the food to be very valuable then you can use it as a reward


...and some horses first have to understand the food as a reward and then it becomes valuable to them. ;) That´s how it worked for Pia: in the beginning she had very little interest in the oat I gave her, but once she realized that she was getting rewarded for her own activity with it, she started to make a lot of effort to get it.

Now she still acts like that quite often: when I give her the treats as a reward, she tries to get more and more by showing all kinds of exercises, but when I give it to her for free, like when we go for a walk and I reward her for just being cute or for the weather being nice, often I almost have to convince her to eat it. :smile:


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 Post subject: Re: About food rewards
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:15 pm 
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Karen wrote:
Angel, sometimes we just have to experiment to find the right food to use! The clicker doesn't make the food more valuable...the horse has to first consider the food to be very valuable then you can use it as a reward. Or have I misunderstood your post?



Karen, no no I was thinking more that the clicker will help her understand that she is being rewarded. It just seemed to me that at some point she wasnt interested in food anymore, and I still wanted to reward her and this point clicker would be good , because once she understands that it is a sign that she did a good job, I could just click and let her know she did a good job when she is for example trotting around me. I also used scratching and playing with the tiger as a reward, because the tiger seemed to interest her. I just said thank you for the thread becasue it made me think that I should probably try different food as a reward. Of course clicker does not make food more valuble but it i feel it will make it easier to show to her that she was a good girl. :f: (if that makes sense :roll: )

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 Post subject: Re: About food rewards
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:00 pm 

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Hi Frances, I realy do not have as much practice at training as many of the members you already have replies from.
What works with my pony Daniel varies, you said :
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I clicked but she had an itch so started to scratch herself befor accepting the foodreward

well, sometimes Daniel will sidle over and place me alongside his tummy, then raise his hind leg, and if I am slow on the indulgent uptake, he points an extended muzzle to show me which spot to give circle scratches to. Usually this is his hoof and feathers, as well as the inside of the hind legs, hocks and ventral line of tummy. All the bits that are easier for me to reach than for him to attend to himself. He stretches that nose in ecstasy, so that is a reward.

But my horses also work for treats, carrots are a favourite, oats are worked hard for, and I do buy boxes of sugar puffs, honey coated puffed wheat, because they are light and easy to carry, and five puffs is less than half a grass nut.

Play and experiment with what works for you, have a look at these bonding tips:
http://www.naturalhorsetraining.com/TrainingTips58.html
from Sylvia Scott naturalhorsetraining.com

Hope that is some help.
Susie xx

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